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America operating on Turkish grounds, supporting ISIS: Syrian envoy Dr Riad Abbas

By Priti Prakash | PUBLISHED: 15, Jul 2014, 18:31 pm IST | UPDATED: 18, Jul 2014, 13:29 pm IST

America operating on Turkish grounds, supporting ISIS: Syrian envoy Dr Riad Abbas As I talk to His Excellency the High Commission of Syria to India, the TV behind shows scenes to blasts in Iraq. The condition in Iraq and some northern parts of Syria are much much away from normal. After their national elections people of Syria must have thought of an ensuing period  of peace and prosperity. But they are in for another spell of trouble. Though things are changing at a rapid pace, on day to day basis the region is sitting on the keg of gunpowder. Priti Prakash talked to Dr Riad Abbas to find out first hand information about Syria and the region in turmoil.    

PP: What is the ground reality in Syria when the region has been affected by violence and occupation by  ISIS.  

RA: We have been warning since 3 years about what is going on in our country and in the region and for the reform of  democarcy.  It was a plot put by America to destroy the country and to control the area. On the face they ask for democracy but under the table it is international game for economy.  America wants to remain the unit of power in the war, to be the most powerful they have to put hands into all energy resources in the region and specially in Asia.  Because of this they create trouble in this area. This is in the interest of America and secondly for the safety of Israel .This is the purpose of America  in middle east.  

They started in Syria by sending mercenary from all over the world, they support them, fund them, arm them, train them and smuggled them from the border of  Syria against our civilians and are destroying our country. This means there is external intervention indirectly by America, by its followers in the region.

We are fighting cross border terrorism in Syria, and as we know  America created  Al Qeada in Afganistan. Al Qaeda was created in Afganistan to fight against Soviet Union. Leader of Al Qaeda created Jamat-e-Nusra in Syria and ISIS and the American occupation of Iraq, and ISIS in Iraq sent its branch Jamat-e-Nusra to Syria to fight against our govt. After that ISIS in Iraq spread into Syria to fight against our govt also but when our army defeats them they go back to their homeland in Iraq and they create crisis in Iraq. America  created Al Qeada, ISIS is a branch of Al Qaeda and America till now  supports Al Qeada which is called ISIS in Iraq. That is going on in this region.

To give you evidence when  ISIS started controlling many cities in Iraq, since 10 days or 1 week  America put plan together to fight. For 10 days there was no practical movement from American troops, from American military base in GCC countries, no use of drones at the terrorist groups in Iraq. There has been no action, no condemnation of terrorist groups from any international organisation till now. Also the muck of ISIS they put on internet  which included Syria, Iraq, Kuwait and some other countries except Skendron state, part of Syria on Turkey side, there is no intrusion there.  

These ISIS groups destroyed all Sahabat of Islam except the tomb of Suleman Shah, Turkish Khalifa. This movement proves that ISIS  gets support from Turkish side and America and they are operating  on Turkish ground with representatives from UK, US, Saudi Arabia and Turkey controling ISIS in Iraq, coordinated from there. Their aim, they purpose is to divide Iraq or change the Prime Minister of Iraq and have a Prime Minister who is in their favour, make pressure against Iran and implicate Iran to involve in this issue.

We asked in the past that what is happening in Syria should immediately stop, but nobody listens. We sent representatives to UN but they say it is ‘natural movement, aspiration of people’. We have seen what happened in Arab countries. They changed secular regime by radical regime. It was not Arab spring, it is better called as western spring, or American spring. They couldn’t do it in Syria because President Assad came to power  with fair elections. Majority of people in our country came out at the embassy to vote in huge numbers. And they say it is not real elections. Before that we asked friendly countries to see election in Syria and be a witness and that is what happened  and our President got victory.  

PP: What is President Assad’s govt doing to tackle the ISIS situation in Syria

RA: There is no talks between secular regime and terrorists groups. It has never happened except talks between  America and Taliban in Doha last year .  Only America talks to terrorist groups. Our govt has absolutely no talks with terrorist groups.  Only way to solve our problem is to join hands with friendly countries to fight against terrorism, to make pressure against countries who support them. We have to identifying countries supporting terrorism,  arming them, training them, funding them. They are well known countries, not hiding themselves.  

Mr McClain, member of Congress who visited some country has good links and contact with terrorists group, he entered Syria in an illegal way and met terrorist  groups, gave them information, his plan, what they have to do and they executed his  plans on Syrian ground. But when our army fights them down they council the rebels from some other areas of Syria.

Now they have put their hands on some blocks of oil in north of Syria. There is embargo on Syrian crude but when terrorist groups recruit they remove embargo. Do you know how much they sell 1 barrel of crude oil? By 2 dollar….the rebels…terrorist groups. They sell this oil in 2 dollars to Turkish govt, Turkish govt sells this in international market.  When these blocks are under the control of our govt there is embargo but when rebels come there is no embargo. This is shameful. But in Syria they cannot do anything. Our army is very strong. When they stop supporting terrorist groups in 24 hrs our army will take control of Syria and we will do it if they stop or not.  

PP: What action is Syrian govt taking to stop the advance of ISIS.  

RA:
We have already taken action against them.  As I say ISIS was created in Iraq, they spread into Syria, gets support from those countries which we mentioned, when our army defeats them they go back to their homeland  this means when the plot of America failed in Syria they tried doing it in Iraq.

The aim of America is to make the area  a terrorist hub. They want to see terrorist groups  on these grounds, put a Prime Minister favourable to America, and then say  give us Iraq or we will divide Iraq or we will keep terrorist groups spreading. They want to divide Iraq and all the area into religion states to give the right to Israel to be a jewish state and expel all Palestinian people from their ground.

PP: The Caliphat is declared in Iraq. How do you plan to tackle that?

RA: Caliphat gets support from PM of Turkey. Their aim is to revive Ottoman empire. ISIS is operating  from Turkey. We have seen they are all Turkish drivers whom they have captured in Mosul in Iraq.

PP: ISIS wants to make it a global jehadi movement? They have given a call to muslims around the world to join them and fight for their rights. How do you view this?

RA: They announced on TV, internet and issued statement by the name of this Khalifa and called all people of Islam to fight against secular countries and they are creating problem not only for our country but all over the region.  We have to know and ask who supports these jehadis.  Wahabis. We have to know who supports wahabism. Give me one operation without wahabis and without terrorism, we have to join hands and have to fight wahabism n terrorism. We have to work with a plan, all BRICS states and friendly countries should join to fight against terrorism because there is no fixed place for terrorists, terrorist groups, terrorism, terrorism cross border.We will have to reach out to all countries all over the world.

FacenFacts Editor Priti Prakash with Syrian envoy Dr Riad AbbasPP: How is the economy of Syria affected?

RA: Yes , it is definitely affected.  Syria is the richest country in the middle east. We have many natural resources. Our people have joined hands to fight against terrorism.  Our society is fighting against terrorism. But the western states would like to impose sunni shia fighting in this area which is not exactly as it is brought out. What we have seen happen in Libya, in Tunisia, what happened in Arab spring countries and in Egypt is evidence in itself. In Syria we are fighting between salaphists and the Muslim Brotherhood Party same as in Tunisia and Syria. Syrians and other countries are fighting between secularism and extremism.  

PP: How are your relation with Iraq?

RA: We have cordial relation with Iraq and other countries and especially with BRICS states. We have good relations but we don’t want to interfere in the internal issues of any other country.  

PP: Do you think Maliki govt has not been able to handle the situation.

RA: Maliki in last election won with majority seats in the parliament, but we don’t like to do what America and western states did to involve in Iraqi issues. Iraqi people can decide who will rule their country, it is not our duty or the duty of America to tell them. Before American came in there were no terrorist groups and no trouble in this area.  America came and created trouble as they created trouble in Afganistan with its followers Al Qeada and came to interfere in situation of Afganistan. The same is in Iraq. They created the problem and try to prove to us that they are a peace wanting country come to solve the problem. Who invited them to our ground, for what have they come. They have come to execute the aspiration of some Mr Mohammad, Mr Hasan or Mr Isa. They have come for their interests, not for our aspirations, they don’t care for us.

PP: If America comes around with Iraq can the condition in this area become better.

RA: Our current govt and former govt does not ask visa from America and do not like American government, American Department. We have no contact with them and no ambition to make good relations with American Departments. We would like to make good relations with people who coordinate with us at the same level. We are not willing to sell our soverignity or independent decision making. If they want to come with us, join hands to fight against terrorism they have to come over the table not under the table. Many Chiefs of Intelligence  from European countries came to our country for joining hands for fighting terrorism over the table not under the table. They sent people from their country, they supported them but our government has issued a decree of amnesty. Any foreigner who surrenders his weapons, we will give him ticket to go back to his country  to spread democracy. We do not want to keep them in our country for fighting or training.

PP: Is it a Shia sunni strife, a sectarian tussle.

RA: Absolutely no. Especially in Syria all part of our society joins hands against wahabism, terrorism. Because our Ulemah of Islam doesn’t like wahabism spreading in our society so we have got together against wahabism and terrorism. In Egypt they are fighting with salaphists and Muslim Brotherhood Party. They belong to the same community. Same is in Libya. There is no shia sunni fighting. They are imposing shia sunni fight. A thousand years ago there were no sunni shias fight and also the relationship between Saudi Arabia and Iran and in the Shah’s time they had good relations. Shia Sunni fighting started after Mr Khomeni came to power in Iran. This started only because they wanted to remove Isreali embassy and put Palestinian embassy  Wahabism doesn’t like to confer freedom for the first Kubla of islam. Nobody knows about it. This is the problem. Because of that wahabism joined hands with Isai to keep control of the first Kubla of Islam. This is very important and nobody knows about it. This is the problem. Our brothers in Islam community do not know about this problem.

PP: Where is the ISIS funded from?  

RA: They get arms and weapons from western states. Saudis do not produce weapons they can pay only. They get them from Turkey… Turkish side.  They facilitate the supply from Skendron port and smuggle through Turkey and Syria through Iraq. Funds are provided by biggest state of Qatar, Saudi Arabia and they get support directly from Saudi Arabia for Iraq to Syria (southern borders). It cannot always be prevented. There is more than 900km border with Syria and Turkey and same with Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia wants to spread their kind of democracy. They try to teach us about democratic rights, about women rights, about parliamentary ways, all these which are not available in Saudi Arabia. But they want to teach us. India is the largest democracy in the world, the real democracy is in India, we hope to learn from India not from Saudi Arabia or from Qatar state.

Mr Obama did not ask for elections in Syria because he knew President Assad will win elections. This is democracy. Is there democracy in Saudi Arabia? In Qatar? Why is there no Arab spring in these countries. Because they have no people they slaves.

PP: How do you see the future of Syria and Iraq?

RA: By the end of the year there will be no rebels in our country. Our country has woken up. There is nothing like any Caliphat. We don’t care for that, they only talk, they cannot do anything to our country. Our army is strong. We will remove them because we care for our people.  In the name of massacre, they are defaming Islam. America feeds them, protects them. They are scared of America. Only Syria is a secular country, doesn’t listen to them. We are not keen to visit America.   

PP: How can Syria, Iran, Russia friendship help solve the problem in the region. 

RA: We are proud to have good relations with Iran, Russia and BRICS states. They protect us, our rights in the international organisation but on our ground we do not need any help. Our army is very strong and can control our area. It is not Libya nor Egypt, nor Tunisia, nor Yemen, we have strong army and proving people. They will not like western states controlling us. American plot is not for our aspirations, for the good of Syria, because Syria is different from other countries.

PP: How can this trio contribute to world peace in the background of what is going on in your region.

RA: We are fighting terrorism symbolised by ISIS on behalf of all countries. If we come out victorious it means we are serving global peace. Secondly Russia and BRICS state are not colonial states, they don’t occupy any country, they support freedom of countries, but America and western states occupy many countries and are not in favour of freedom of countries. They support only their interest in those countries.

PP: What about taking up the cause at the UN forum.

RA: We have explained to our friendly countries what America is doing. They know better than us. Everyone knows who is a colonial state and who occupies others land. We know the history. But we appealed in UN for joining hands and getting together against fighting terrorism. But they refuse to recognize the sponser of terrorism in security council. Why? Because they use their army of mercenaries for their interest in other countries. They create problem anywhere with their army of mercenaries.  

PP: Is it the lure of oil that is the centre of all conflict.

RA: America wants to put its hands in this area. To remain the centre of power in the world it has to control Asia specially centre of Asia, from Afganistan to Meditarranian sea, from Russia to Red sea. Trouble is only in this area because it is the richest in energy resources. To remain a superpower America will like to control this areas natural resources.

PP: What are Syria’s basic industries?

RA: Agriculture, Gas, Natural resources of crude oil, mines, economy build on tourism, export garments, fertilizer, cotton, grains, olives.

PP: Does Syria have chemical weapons?

RA: Since 2003 Syria has been asking UN to make middle east free from WMD’s. We are clearing all chemical weapons from our ground with the support of Russia our friendly country. We don’t need them and have asked other countries to do the same to make this area free from WMD. We have executed our promise to UN and other organisations and we did it.
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